Everyday Imamzadeh:
Research Writing + Photos
Everyday Imamzadeh is an ongoing dialogical project initiated in 2010. My research was looking at transnational Muslim communities and labor, remittance, migration debt and the displacement of existing labor as well as the engagement in the public sphere. In Farsi, an Imamzadeh is a holy person, or person of recognition, who had shrines dedicated to them either through their sacrificial deeds, or often because of their class status.
I met, interviewed and documented in various forms 300 participants to honor the work and sacrifices of Muslim people in diaspora. I have been able to travel so far to many cities in the US and Europe with large or growing Muslim communities. Some of my interactions were very formal interviews set up with academics, Imams or elders, who would speak on behalf of… The research was somewhat rhizomatic and began with my own experience within my family as transnational Muslim laborers and expanded out. Apart from feminists and labor text, I read researchers and theorists, with a particular focus on transnational Muslims, the body and war such as Hamid Dabashi, Jean Genet and Junaid Rana. While traveling and meeting people, I kept personal documentation of locations and interviews. I believe in using any media or means to create close connections and reach a better understanding.
Most of my research and work is feminist and gender based. I had the opportunity to make connections with women and girls in many cities and begin art clubs and create public art projects that dealt with the Muslim body and visibility/invisibility. Since I was working to build with women and girls, my connections with men became limited. I do believe in multiple feminist practices, and as a Muslim woman of color, it is impossible to do feminist research without inclusion of the entire community. Aligned with this project, and to reach a younger audience of recent immigrants, I also organized or have collaborated on art clubs in housing projects in Denmark <Fantastic Femmes>, at the Museum of Contemporary Art Detroit <Ta(h)rir Social Club>, and through the Women’s Center for Creative Work in Los Angeles <Moozis>.
Amitis Motevalli – Privileged Encounters, September 2012 (Online Chat Transcript)
In one aspect of the project, I chatted online through dating apps with Muslim men and Lesbian women in the US and Europe using a pseudonym and no photo but honestly representing myself and my intentions as an artist of Iranian-Muslim descent living in Los Angeles.
At this stage, I really did want to be able to connect with men in the same way, as I was able to with women, without creating a sexualized distrust within the community. It is still very complex to enter a community and get close to men without causing a stir.
After overhearing a conversation at a hookah bar in Dubai, I realized that I might be able to chat with some men one on one through dating sites and applications. This also gave me access to Muslim men internationally. I chatted occasionally within one year with up to 600 people identifying as Muslim men and a few Muslim women. The chats come at a very fast pace as there are many Middle Eastern, South Asian and North Africans on some specific apps. My profile only provided an age, gender, and location, no photo. I also stated that I was Middle Eastern. Yasmine - Female, 36, Los Angeles, CA, US. These few excerpts are from chats that continued for a few months. The transcriptions lay a bit flat in relation to the cadence and pace of a live chat, but as documentation very informative to me on more levels than my project research.
Egyptian Lover – Male, 37, Petersburg, VA, US
Egyptian Lover *winked* at you
Hi
Hi sweetie. How are you
Good. N u?
I’m great thank you
Were r u from?
Iran
And you? Where are you from?
Guess
Oh, yea… lol, Egypt?
hahaha yes
you been there?
No, never, I’d love to go
not is not so good to visit
I would love to go now especially
haha, you crazy
I’m sure you are cute. Irani girls are beautiful
Where do you live?
Virginia, in the south
How long have you been there?
I be here in VA for going on 5 years
Are you single Yasmina?
Yes
You moved from Egypt to VA?
No I move to Washington DC first bcz I have uncle there
Yasmina, you have kids?
No sweetie no kids
Can I see your pic?
sent a pic
Wow, you good looking
You be marrd before?
No, never
Why? You look good girl
Why you can get no husband?
It’s not that I can’t
why?
nevermind
tell me about you
wat you want 2 now? Ask
How long were you in DC?
one year but no work for me
So what do you do now?
some my friends and me got a little store over here in VA
Oh really? What kind?
convenience store
in a poor community?
yea, people real poor here
you sell liquor?
yea we get special liscence, make more money
show me another picture
isn’t it haram to sell liquor?
no, why haram? I support my family two kids and more family in Alexandria
can you send another pic
sent a pic
what about all of the people in the neighborhood, do you care about them?
yea, people here cool
they cool with me cuz I’m cool with them
you tall? That pic you look tall
who is that man?
that’s Rafer Johnson, he was a gold medal decathlete.
I met him at an art event
hes your boyfriend?
no, I just took the picture with him
so you have kids? Are you married?
Yea, I have wife and kids back home
is it hard being away from them?
yea, I miss them but I visit and I skype everyday
you visit?
yea, I go cople times a year
Why are you on this app then? Why do you want to meet other women?
I just chat, nobody here Arab or Muslim so I chat
Are you lonely?
yea, you won come visit?
Virginia or Alexandria
come both, I show you my country
what will your wife say?
nothing she can not say nothing
stop it you know she’ll beat your ass
maybe lol
send me more pics
that’s it for now papa
I’m sleepy need to go to bed
I like you call me papa
one more
sexy one for good nite
no
t’sbah ala khayr
mashalla TESBA7 3ALA KHER
Khaled – Male, 31, El Cajon, CA, US
Hi
Hi Khaled
How r u
Were u live
Why no pic
Hi I live in LA
Where are you from?
Iraq I live san diego
And u from were
Iran
Oh nice
How long u her
Since I was a little girl
Nice
U marrid
No
Why no pic
Sent a pic
But I know the iran woman really cute
Nice u so cute and sexy
U live with parents
No sweetie
Oh ok with?
What u lookin for
Conversation
And u? What r u looking for?
Love
Oh that’s heavy
Can you find it here?
No coz no trusting
This may not be the app for love but who knows
So what do you do for work Khalid?
You mean job
Yes
I work in Ralphs store
Ok cool
How long have you been here?
1 year
Awww wow. Do you miss Iraq?
Yes much
I miss my family
Can you go an visit yet
No yet
What city are you from?
Basra
In south
Oh ok. Are you Shia?
Yes
U?
Me too
I know coz much people from Iran shia
True
J
yes
u marrid or stell virgion
lol. Not married
oh u lookin for marrid
No I’m looking for friendship
Oh nice
U r my friend now
Cool J
But sometimes I get danger
What does that mean?
That mean I can kiss my friend
Nooooo
Tell me more. Are you married?
No
Kids?
No
And u stell no kids
No
U sexy
Send pic
Sent pic
I have this one
Send another
There’s no more L
Send sexy pic
No
Are you in school too?
Yes
What are you studying?
English class
What u working
Im an artist
What u do
Dance
No more like painting, drawing, sculpture
Oh nice
U lonely
Not really
Are you?
No my father
What does that mean?
With my father
Oh your father lives here
Yes
U so cute and no boyfriend
Where does your mother live?
In my country
Awww
Will you bring her here?
Not yet
I have make money first
Does all of your family live in Iraq?
Yes
Brothers and sisters?
Only one brother and three sisters in Iraq
I have had to more brothers
Oh where are they
Killed
Oh L
In war?
Yes
Come on send one more pic
u so cute
sent pic
nice
so hot
send with no clots
???
nakid sexy pic
Khalid !!!
No
Come on baby
Ok here’s one in my bathing suit
Sent a pic
Rami – Male, 32 years, Roseville, CA, US
Rami *winked* at you
Hi J
How are you?
Hi sweetie, I’m great. How are you?
Good J
What are you up to?
Chatting with you
yea J
where are you from?
I was born in Iran
Oh nice
Where are you from?
Jordan
You speak Arabic?
No sweetie, I speak Farsi
How long have you been here from Jordan?
Since I was 17
Wow, you came here with your family?
No, my family sent me by myself
Wow! That must have been scary when you were a teenager
Yea, a little. I had one uncle here, but I came to work
Oh, ok. So is your family here now?
Some of them, my dad and some of his family, uncle, aunt and cousins
One brother is studying in San Francisco and another brother in Los Angeles
Is your mom in Jordan?
Yea
Do you miss her?
Yea, a lot and my sister
Were you the first one here from your immediate family?
Yes, they all came after I was here
I was just in Jordan to see my mom
It was after a long time
Oh great, I bet she was so happy
Yes she was
Do you go to Iran?
Yes, I have many friends and family there
How long have you been here?
Since I was a little girl, I grew up in LA
Oh, nice
How about your Mom and Dad?
My Mother lives in Los Angeles, so does my brother
My father lives in Iran, he is remarried
Oh your parents are divorced?
Yes, since I was a teenager
Mine too, my dad is remarried
Are you married?
Not married
Me either
But my parents always try and find me a nice Arab girl
Haha, so why don’t you date them?
No way, they are too conservative. They don’t want to date. They just want marriage.
Also, they wear hijab
So? What’s wrong with hijab? Are you not Muslim?
Yes, but I don’t like a conservative woman
Besides, just because they wear hijab doesn’t mean they are pious. That’s all to create an image
Not all women who wear hijab are like that
Yea, that’s true
So are you Muslim?
Yes, I am
Are you Shia? Most Iranians are Shia
Yes
I worked around many Shia
Really? What do you do?
I’m a linguist
??? Humnnnn? What does that mean? Is it like Noam Chomsky?
Who?
I do translation
Oh, I see Arabic to English?
Yes
Where did you work with so many Shia?
In Iraq
Oh
I was with the troops
Oh
You translated for the troops during the invasion and occupation?
Yes for about 6 years
That’s a very long time. How long have you been back?
About 5 months
I went to Europe for a while the to visit my family in Jordan
Now I’m back in Cali
I’m staying with my dad, but I’ll get an apartment soon
Oh, so your life has completely changed all of a sudden
Yea, I just got an iphone
I’m getting a new laptop soon
My car got old too, so I’m looking for a new one
Was it good money?
Yes, I got about 80k a year
Was it difficult being in Iraq? During the war?
You get used to it, but we were isolated. I made many good friends. I miss our guys and gals there
Do you mean the Iraqi people?
No, the troops, here’s a picture
Sent a pic
I was here with the guys translating in Basra
Oh, wow, you wear the camo colors too, like you are military
Well, I’m civilian but I’m one of the troops
How do you feel being there in a war against our people?
Well, it was difficult, I’m glad I’m back
I think I’m going to get this Range Rover
Sent a pic
What do you think?
Oh, ok, the black car?
Yes, I think I’m going to buy it
How do you like it?
Ummm well, I don’t really like Range Rovers
Why not?
That’s the car the colonial british would drive
Oh, well I’m getting this, my other car is a Benz, but it’s old now
I let my brother drive it while I was gone
Rami, I’m getting sleepy
Oh, ok, I’ll talk to you later
Gnite!
Good Night Yasmine
What’s up Yasmine
Good Morning, what’s up Rami?
I’m going to go get that car today
Oh ok, well if it makes you happy
What are you up to?
I was just planning a project and drinking coffee
Oh nice
So what are you doing for work now Rami?
Well, I’m looking to invest in a business with my cousin
What kind of business?
I don’t know yet
So Rami, How come you haven’t asked for my picture?
You can send it if you want, I like you already
Oh, okay, but you don’t know anything about me
I will there is so much time
Well I’m an artist
I’m doing research right now on transnational Muslims who migrate for labor and to flee wars
Oh, yea there are many believe me
Especially in Europe, they are everywhere and the act so ghetto
Well I like the ghetto, I grew up in “ghetto” so tell me where…
I saw many in Dusseldorf and Frankfurt
You grew up in a Muslim ghetto?
Lol, no, there were no Muslim ghettos on the east side of LA
Most people in Cali who are Muslim already have some money in their family, how did you end up in a ghetto?
We spent all our money getting to New York, then drove across the country because New York was too cold
Oh you because of the revolution?
No, we came because of the king, before the revolution
He was our friend though.
Who? Your family? King Hussain?
No, the US
Rami, you weren’t even here in the US during that time and you say we?
Were you even born?
Lol, no
I’ll talk to you later Rami
Ok
Good Morning Yasmine
Good evening Rami
Yea, your profile says you are 5540 miles away
I am, I’m in Denmark
Oh, nice. What are you doing there?
I’m here for work
Oh nice, nice
Did you get the pictures of my Range Rover?
Oh, yea, sorry I’ve been so busy, between my job, preparing for this trip and being in travel
How do you like it?
I love it!
It’s so different, so much more computerized than my Benz was
Oh, ok, cool
I got a Macbook and an iPad too
Wow, that’s a lot of stuff, you’ve been shopping
Yea, look, I got these too
Sent a pic
Theyre true religion
Oh, ok, cool. Congratulations
Thanks! You never sent me a picture
You never asked
Ok, I’m asking
Sent a pic
You’re very pretty, you look like youre Arab
Thank you, yea we all have similarities in that region
Yes, true. Dark eyes, dark hair is nice. Do you have big breasts
Lol, no Rami, I don’t
Lol, I had to ask, I like big tits
Ok, then
Sent a picture
That’s my cousin and his son on my cousin’s speed boat
We went to the lake yesterday
Wow, it looks so warm and beautiful. It’s cold here
Oh, yea northern Europe, of course it is
I want to get a boat too
A boat? Rami, do you ever think about how you are getting all of the things you have?
What do you mean?
I mean that you helped the people who went to loot Iraq and kill Muslims
I didn’t kill them
Yes, but you helped
No the troops were my friends, they weren’t just killing
Ok, but were you not all there to control the population and take all the resources
Look you don’t know what I saw there
You have no idea
It is hard being a Muslim and seeing that
But the guys I was with are like my family too
You can’t judge, you haven’t been there.
In Iraq, they are so angry and sneaky
It’s not like your country or mine
Are they not also Muslims?
Are they not human, just wanting to live comfortably in their own land?
Yes, but, you have no idea, we did not kill all the time
They attacked us too
You were in their home, uninvited
If someone came into your home and started to rape your family, kill your brothers and sisters, steal all of the things you worked hard for, humiliated you, wouldn’t you fight back too
How are you Yasmine?
I’m good Rami, how about yourself
Not good
Why?
I have to go to Kuwait
Oh really? I thought they were trying to pull all the troops out of Iraq
It’s not Iraq, it’s Kuwait
Well you didn’t get drafted right? You don’t have to go
I don’t but I need work and can’t find any. I don’t feel like a man, I haven’t worked for almost a year
Isn’t there other work you can do?
Not any that pay me so good. Besides, I haven’t really been able to focus since I got back, I feel like sleeping always
I think this is the only work for me
No Rami, you have options, you can sell your Range and live a little more simple
I’m selling my car, I’ll get a new one when I get back
It won’t be that bad, It won’t be like when we were locked in in Iraq
We can drive around in Kuwait
But you seemed like you were upset about having to leave
Rami, last time it effected you, I could tell
You have to think about how this will make you feel years from now
The military is there for wrong reasons, you know that
Im not there for killing our people, I’m there to help
People need to talk to each other
It will be good to see many of my friends again
I need work, so I will go to work
Can I come see you?
I’m working now and leaving town soon
I’ll chat with you before you leave
Wait
Okay
Bye
Hi Rami
Hello J
Rami WYD?
Atakan – Male, 36 years, Berlin, DE
Hello
Hi sweetie how are you
I’m very good
Where are you Yasmina?
Your profile says Mitte
sprechen deutsch
???
No, English L
Very good
I speak English
Oh good
Do you live in Germany?
Yes, Berlin Neukolln
I have not been there yet
Are you visiting Berlin?
Yes
Where are you from?
I was born in Iran
But I live in LA and right now I live in Denmark for a few months
Oh, really? Copenhagen?
No in Aarhus
How do you like Berlin?
I like it
Well, kind of
It’s much sunnier than Aarhus J
It’s great weather now
You are here for holiday or business?
I’m here for business
Very good, what do you do?
I’m an artist
Very nice, there are much artists in Berlin
Are you going to the Biennal?
Oh, you know about it... yes, I went to the opening and back to see the art
Where are you from Atakan?
I’m from Turkey
Salaam J
Are you Muslim?
Yes J
You?
Yes
Very nice, Iranian women who are muslim are very kind
Ha, thank you! Not always J
May I see your picture?
Sent a picture
Beautiful
Thank you!
How long have you been in Germany?
For 8 years
I have had family here, but in Dusseldorf
Oh, good, so there were people here to help at first
Yes, thank God
Did you stay in one of those big housing projects for refugees?
Haha, yes. How did you know?
It seems most immigrants stay in those in Europe
Yes, it was no good
I live in Turkish area now, but it’s very good
What do you mean no good?
It was bad. The people too close, not clean, very dangerous, many Germans angry at us
Why were they angry?
They are upset that we come here
And they don’t like Muslim
Oh, awful. Were people ever violent to you?
Yes, me, my family
We are strong, we fight J
Haha! Good!
What do you do for work?
I am an engineer
Oh wow, did you go to school here?
No in Turkey
Oh, wow, very good. I know the engineering schools there are very good
Yes, it’s very hard to go to University. You must have very high marks
Of course, so you are very educated, you are fluent in three languages?
Actually 4, I also speak Arabic
Wow, what type of engineering do you work in?
I am working now as an auto mechanic
My credentials from turkey are not excepted here
Really?
Well, German degrees are preffered.
I am lucky to have a job. Many people don’t have any work now
And my job has good pay
Oh, ok, so you like what you do?
Not really, but I like better than no food
Hahaha
Right haha
Are you married Yasmine?
No
Are you looking for a husband?
No
What are you looking for on this app?
Just friends and to chat
Just friends?
Yes, I’m also learning about a lot about Muslim men
What are you looking for?
Well to be honest sex
When I meet any Turkish girls, I’m expected to marry them
I would rather get to know a woman more before that
But as you know, humans have needs ;)
Ha, I guess so
Why don’t you have a girlfriend? Maybe a German girl?
Oh, no, I like woman from the middle east
So much more beautiful
I don’t mind German girls for just sex
Oh :/
Or women traveling and lonely ;)
Slow down
>:(
Can we sit and talk with some coffee
How long will you be in Berlin?
I’m hoping to get an overnight train tonight
Oh L
Can I meet you before you leave?
I don’t think so, I have to do a few things before I leave
Will you come back to Berlin?
Insh’Allah
Insh’Allah J
Mohammad Hakim – Male, 27 years, Oakland, CA, US
Hakim *winked* at you
Hi :)
Hi
How are you
I'm good n u
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Great
What are you up to?
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Not much
I'm at work
Where do you work?
At Prada
Oh really? Where in Union Square?
Yes you know SF?
Yes, I went to college there for my bachelors degree
Wow so close
Yes
I love Prada
Ughhh
What?
I hate Prada
Why? Don't you work there?
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Yes, I'm a security guard
Oh is it hard work
Not really
Why do you hate it?
The people here
Oh really, why
They are so stuck up
They think they are more special than everybody
I hate that kind of attitude
Oh yea me too
Do they really think they are better
Yes
Where do you live now?
Los Angeles
Oh not too far
Your page say u r mid eastern
Yes I am. I'm from Iran
Oh good. U Muslim
Yes
Where r u from?
Egypt
Very good, how long have you been here?
2 years
Your English is so good
Yes, I learn in Egypt
Which city are you from?
Cairo
Send a pic
Sent a pic
You hot
Thank you!
Send another pic, with body
I’m not sending you a naked pic
No, so I see all not just face
Naked pic later ;)
Sent a pic
Nice body
You workout?
Yes
How tall?
I’m 5.8
Oh you tall, Im 6.3
You are tall too
Where is your family?
In Egypt
All of them?
Yes
You didn’t have family here?
No
You married?
No, are you
Yes, but not real
Really, why are you looking for women
I married, but not for love
???!!! for papers?
Yes, she is American woman I met online
I come here to see her and we marry
Oh, does she think it’s a real marriage?
Yes, maybe, idk
That seems so cruel. Does she know, did you give her money?
No she pay for my ticket and get a lawyer to help with
She seems so sweet, that’s very generous
:/ nooooooo
Why, she helped you
She use me too, believe me
American woman chase after Arab man so much, in Egypt, so many woman or man come looking for Arab
She don’t care about me, my family, my culture
She just want some spice, you understand?
I guess… how?
I am not equal to her
She married you and helped you right? Did she tell you she loves you?
Yes, but she love me like she love her dog or cat
She pay for them too
Oh so you think she wants to own you
Yes, she does not see me as partner
Well you didn’t see her as partner either, right?
You are right, I look for American woman to help me leave Egypt
Why did you leave Egypt? It seems you don’t like much here
No, I like here, I live in Oakland, I like my people, I like African people here, I like Arab, Mexican and some white too
I don’t like people who think they better
Oh, so you must hate San Francisco, lol
Lol, yea, SF is bad, too many arrogant
It seems like you have some arrogance yourself
Not arrogant, I am proud
I love Egypt, we are ancient culture
Europe and America learn from us and then steal from us
So why did you leave?
I came to make money and send home
Oh, I understand
I have young brother and sister
My mother need medicine
I see, so you came here to become a security guard?
My first job was pet husband lol
True, that was work
I work two job now, here at Prada and at jewel store
Can you get me some of that Prada? Lol
Sure come visit, we can steal some, lol
Ha! Do you steal from there?
No, I didn’t come here to go to jail
Oh right
Will you come to Bay?
Yes, I come visit sometimes
I have many friends
Come stay with me
And your wife?
No, I live small place now in Oakland
I have roommate you have to sleep in my bed ;)
Oh really? And you’ll sleep with your roommate right?
Nooooo
I’ll talk to you later Hakim
No, lol
Yasmine
J
Mohamed – Male, 22 years, Aarhus, DK
Hejsa Yasmine
J Wanna chat with me? I know I am young but hope it’s okay. I am just tired of young and superficial girls J
Hi Mohamed
Is it cold in Aarhus Now?
Yeah it’s pretty cold..
How is the weather in LA?
So hot!
hehe wanna switch? I am in my bed with the heat on.. it’s cooold
where are you from originally?
Nooooo
I just left Aarhus in June
really?? What did you do in Denmark?
Iran
I went there for work
In Gellerup
oh really? What do you work with? Impressing
I lived in Gellerup for 15 years
I like Gellerup but really didn’t like the rest of Aarhus
it’s so boooring+what do you work with?
I’m an artist
oh what’s your name? I am sure they have made an article in Danish then
Where r u from? Palestine?
Yes there were many articles
no Lebanon
oh ok
so are you married or single? Any kids?
Not married no kids
okay J
you were a child when you moved to DK?
you sound really cool…
no I was born in DEnmark
my parents moved from the war in Lebanon
Oh ok
Do you go visit?
I would love to go to Lebanon but haven’t yet
yeah in the summer.. I have a lot of family there
so what kind of artist are u?
its really cool... so beautiful
I’m a contemporary conceptual artist
you have to elaborate on the Yasmine ;)
I am an economics student..Just started my masters.
So I only understand numbers hehe
hahaha google is a good thing too
hahahaha
touché
which university are you studying at?
ha idea becomes the machine that makes the art
:p
Very good
so what ideas are you working with? Ghetto problems?
lol
Doing research and working in Muslim ghettos. Lol
okay J
what else if you visited Gellerup hehe
Also doing research on transnational muslims
I stayed in Gellerup for 2 months
okay J sounds really interesting
I also worked in Norborro Copenhagen
with some of the camps
But I just finished a larger Danish project on immigration
okay cool
there are serious problems in Denmark with racism
it’s not as bad as you might think
it’s worse in Holland
Noooooo
Denmark is one of the MOST racist countries I’ve been to
Israel, Poland, Russia may be a little worse
Israel a lot worse
and how do you judge that?
what parameters do you look at?
research
daily life of people
quality of life and access
okay :0
compared to rights and daily life in other countries
not that netherlands, france, italy, greece or us/uk are perfect
yeah J you are right
So do you mostly date Danish girls or Arab girls? Or…?
Arab girls
my last gf was Afghan though
oh ok
the problem is that not many girls wanna have a relationship unless it’s something serious..and I am not ready for marriage and all of that stuff
so I have been single for 10 months now
I see
prob because of family?
yeah, it’s still taboo
to have girl/boy friends
unless you are getting engaged or something
it’s easier in Lebanon than for us here
what about you? American men or Middle eastern?
both
physically I prefer middle eastern men.
They are way more attractive
hehe but you hate the mentality of the middle eastern?
no
jealous dominating :p
not all are like that
some are really cool
no but that’s usually the answer, sterotypes
all the men I’ve dated have gotten jealous and dominating
you sure know how to pick em :p
there is a fine line between jealous and protective
I think it has to do with me I’m more involved with my work than anything else
okay, yeah I can imagine the potential problems
so what is your next international stop?
I’ve got an ongoing project in Detroit
I’ll be going there soon
There’s a large Muslim community
so why are you chatting with an older woman so far away?
I just got curious..and one thing lead to another. And here we are having a really interesting conversation
what about you? Chatting with a young guy J
Well…. I’m on this app to talk to Muslim men who are away from their homelands
for my research
there are so many on here
okay J
so it’s not pleasure but business
I feel so used lol
no it’s both
I make friends
just kidding J..okay cool..
But as you know in the communities I work with it’s very difficult
Just to go up and talk with men
yeah, I know
Women start to distrust you
hehe lol
so you flirt with them behind their back? Hehehehe
Oh, you’re awful
Relax, don’t take everything so seriously
Don’t be mad, but you are a little preachy, lol
;)